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“Sara and I both have this very self-deprecating, almost abusive way of looking at ourselves,” Tegan Quin explains.

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There's something to be said for the experience, and something to be said for the Clintons themselves. We've always picked whoever's the Democratic candidate. We're watching with deep fascination, and anticipation. Like, you have never been broken up with or you haven't had someone die suddenly or you haven't had the shock of parent being diagnosed with a disease or you haven't done these things.

SARA: Some of the things we're making, it seemed to me anyways, that Tegan was a bit disappointed with the trajectory after The Con. We didn't see a tremendous amount of growth in terms of our careers, and Tegan has started to sort of see us being held back somehow. She wanted to be on the same level as some of her friends who were in bands that were bigger than us, and she was like, “Why can't we have a bigger goals, and why can't we be more ambitious? And it was very difficult to express it to Sara, and especially to our managers, that I was disappointed. Like I remember the show we had The Talk, it was in London and we were playing in front of thousands of people. Tegan and I have had 17 years of adult experience where we have had to live through amazing highs and incredible lows.

Sara, simultaneously realizing her own lesbian inclinations, began to feel an uncomfortable around the girls in her school and locker room.

Having been a child of the 90s, she looked up to openly bisexual rocker Ani Di Franco and lesbian performers like Melissa Etheridge and k.d. Later on, Tegan (the scamp) read her sister’s diary and learned that she was gay, and the two then “beat the crap out of each other.” Tegan felt excited that her twin sister was also gay, but also worried that others would find out.

“A lot of our career, it felt really natural to be open about the fact that I was queer,” says Sara.

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